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SalineJim

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Looks like the weather for Prez weekend is going to be on the cool side.  Yipeeeeee!!  Might be in the 50's come Friday and Saturday.  I've never seen it this cold in Saline on Prez weekend so it will be interesting if this forecast holds true.

rickandurs

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If you can locate the different "deserts" in the US and look on the RAWS web site it will show you the swing between days and nights in a given area, assuming there is a RAWS station.  I have yet to find a RAWS site for Death Valley proper. 

Morrie

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Interesting how the 2 extra hours of darkness in September vs. July doesn't change the average day/night difference of 30 degrees.  I checked the records and this same difference holds for every month of the year.

I'm always hearing talk about the desert having wild temperature swings between day and night.  But the 30 degree difference here is the same as we get back east.  Is there a desert in the US that does vary by more than 30 degrees between day and night?

rickandurs

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Saline Valley Temperatures July and August 2010 and September 2009
All temperatures taken with National Weather Service calibrated thermometers placed in white louvered box, 5 feet off the ground.
All recordings done by Lee.  Thanks to Lee for his record keeping and for passing this information on to us.

Date             Hi         Low                
8/26            118         90                 
8/25            117         88                 
8/24            113         75                  
8/23            110         75               
8/22            115         85                 
8/21            116         87                  
8/20            115         83                 
8/19            112         82                 
8/18            115         82                 
8/17            117         83                         
8/16            115         75
8/15            115         75
8/14            115         75
8/13            112         78
8/12            108         76
8/11            107         71
8/10            106         70
8/09            108         75
8/08            105         75
8/07            111         75
8/06            112         81
8/05            115         80
8/04            114         82
8/03            114         80
8/02            113         81
8/01            113         82
7/31            118         84
7/30            117         80
7/29            116         82
7/28            115         85
7/27            116         84
7/26            115         87
7/25            120         85
7/24            120         84
7/23            116         85
7/22            115         84
7/21            115         83
7/20            118         90
7/19            120         88
7/18            121         88
7/17            117         93
7/16            117         84
7/15            119         93
7/14            115         88
7/13            114         84
7/12            117         85
7/11            114         90
7/10            113         88
7/09            115         88
7/08            113         84
7/07            110         80
7/06            109         73
7/05            113         77
7/04            114         81
7/03            111         79
7/02            109         78
7/01            110         78

Temps for September 2009
9/30            110         72
9/29            109         71
9/28            109         71
9/27            106         70
9/26            105         75
9/25            102         70
9/24            105         71
9/23            107         73
9/22            108         86
9/21            110         80
9/20            110         85
9/19            108         79
9/18            105         78
9/17            103         75
9/16            102         75
9/15            105         78
9/14            103         75
9/13            102         75
9/12            105         75
9/11            113         83
9/10            112         79
9/09            110         83
9/08            109         80
9/07            106         80
9/06            105         80
9/05            109         75
9/04            114         75
9/03            112         84
9/02            112         82
9/01            110         80
morris27

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Im not quite sure what the weather is at the springs. There were snow fluries at around 10k feet in the Rock Creek area just north of 395 almost to Mammoth. In So.Cal its suppose to be in 90's by end of next week. Hope that helps all you non locals.

rickandurs

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Using the Hunter Mtn. RAWS (Remote Automated Weather Station) you can compute the temp. in the SV using the following site:
http://www.tpub.com/content/aerographer/14312/css/14312_47.htm
It is called "Adiabatic Lapse Rate" as the site implies. Have fun.
sheepranch

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@ morrie , sorry can't say whether i would extrapalate anything . i'm just a dumbass Ironworker hiking in Death Valley and enjoying the springs from time to time.
I don't know much about weather coefficients or that formula , i just follow weather patterns in general. from Los Angeles to Sacramento. Then I plan accordingly. Like prepare for snow , rain , heat. And based on that i know how many blankets , umbrellas or beer to bring. Heck sometimes I just hop in the truck and go. Nothing beats an impromptu trip -we forget half the stuff we need but we usually make it through.
Heck sometimes we forget our SWIMSUITS !!!

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I have been to the springs in early September and it can be hot during the day. The temp's were in low 100's and night time mid to high 70's. Our camping group always plans a trip to SV in early September and will be there for the week of  20-24. Most of us live in the Coachella Valley so the SV temps are about the same as here that time of year so we are used to it, but if you are from a cooler climate you may want to wait a couple of weeks. Here is the link to the valley weather. 
yl21

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Hey, what is the SV like in late September? I have a break coming my way the 20th of Sep, and wasn't sure if it'd still be too hot.
Morrie

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At 5 degrees/1000' it should be easy to extrapolate that 120's at sea level would mean 80's at 8000'.  Isn't a 40-degree difference between these two elevations typical for DV?  If so, then I claim you can readily use one weather station's data to predict the temperature for other locations nearby.
sheepranch

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hey all, I recently  did a backpacking trip in DV. Spent my pre-trip night at Hunter Mt. Spring on Hunter Mt. It was brisk at night, however I wouldn't recommend using that weather station to gauge weather at SV springs as it's a completely different animal. We hiked at elevations in the 5700' to 9000' for 3 days with comfort and success. It was 80's during the day , with weather down at Sea level DV hovering in the mid 120's. Enjoy what you will - the reason we all love the desert is cause we're all different from the normal folk.

Major Tom

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Once you learn to love hell, you will be in heaven.

trigger

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If your tough like the guy I always see out there in the lifted black Dodge Ram then it probably doesnt matter how hot it is. But if your the guy in the cute little red jeep thats always there then you better think twice about goin. Buuuuuut........I think even the guy in the Dodge although SV is his favorite place in the world would probably still head to the high sierras this time of year. Folks who went up ther in mid July said it was over 120 degrees!!!!!!!

tronaborn

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Why not use the forecast for the area at the springs themselves?  That forecast can be seen here.  Then you don't have to figure out the altitude difference in the two places and calculate the amount of adiabatic cooling between the springs at ~1500 ft and whatever it is at Hunter Canyon.
BigMc

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It will be HOT!!!!  
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