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Hi Desert Warrior

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WOW!  Thanks for the info.  All this time I thought the pilots were voyeurs checking out the people around the pools.  I have to say every now and then you get a show off in the sky.  I captured some good footage of a F-16 making a very low pass over Palm Springs.  I think he saw me filming him as he did a 360 and when he went by the lower springs, again, did a victory roll.  Then the F-16 made a sharp 90 to the left for about 500 yards pass the lower springs and went vertical, hitting the afterburner.  What a show and I got it on tape.  That was about three years ago.
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The tip of the lava flow near the peace sign is "Point H" on the "SIDEWINDER" low level training route in the R-2508 complex as described in the users handbook for R-2508.  The lower springs themselves are a "GEO Reference Point" inside R-2508 called "NUDY CAMP".  Since the two locations are so close to each other it seems different pilots decide to fly over different points.  Also not everyone flying low level through the valley is following the "SIDEWINDER" route necessarily and they are suppose to report entering areas by "GEO Reference" so that's another reason to buzz the springs.
Hi Desert Warrior

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I agree 200%  I think it could also bring a low flying jet down, as well.
SunMan

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 #34 
Drones are banned in the park. Would not dig a drone buzzing me while I soak.
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I spent the last week at Palm Springs.  Not much air traffic, was buzzed by a F-16 on Tuesday, once, and that was it.  Wednesday was a normal day of fly overs of F-18s.  Only a couple flew over the springs.  Most of them flew over the peace sign.  Saw a B-1 Bomber Thursday afternoon and missed on getting a picture of it.  Someone was flying a drone over Palm Springs, keeping it below the level of the palm trees.  Maybe that's why the planes were flying over the peace sign.
Salt Peter

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Now that's a good tale. Thanks for sharing.
Hi Desert Warrior

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Last Monday, I saw a F-18 flying north in Owens Valley at the base of the Inyo Mountains, about 500 feet off the ground.  It must have turned around north of Bishop.  As a few minutes later it was heading south along the base of the Sierra's about the same height.  It reminded me of the time I was working on the movie Star Trek, Generations and we were filming near the Mt. Whitey Portal.  We had broken for lunch and had just came back to the set from the roach coach to film the meeting of Capt. Pacard and Capt. Kirk.  Just then a F-18 came down from the top of the mountain and passed the set.  Just as it passed the plane banked over and the person in the rear of the cockpit was looking at us.  Seeing the film company was there, I had the feeling it would return.  The plane continued down the canyon and out into Owens Valley.  About 10 minutes later, it returned.  Coming up the canyon from the valley.  As it passed the set it was so low we could see down into the cockpit.  The plane went to the top of the mountain then did a vertical climb hitting the afterburners and flew into the high clouds.  Everyone on the set cheered including William Shantner.  It was the high light of the day.  The owner of the cabin we were filming at said they do that about three times a week.  The first time he was there, he was fishing in the canyon stream when a jet came up the canyon at a very low altitude.  The sudden sound was so loud that it scared him and he lost his balance and fell into the stream.    Now, he's use to it like the rest of the people that live in the canyon.
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 #38 
At a half of a billion dollars a piece the Military Industrial Complex is strong and health.
Hi Desert Warrior

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I read where the F-35 is not only very expense to build but a F-16 can out dogfight it.   That's not saying much for the investment.  Sounds like politics at its best in some senators district was working with this beast.
chuckt53

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The C130J is nothing like the older model. They just look the same. I also toured the Lockheed Martin plant at Marietta, GA. At that time Lockheed was finishing with the F-35. I glad that they are still making that airframe. Good plane...
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I was surprised to read that they were still putting out C-130s.  I thought they were replaced by the C-17.  That's just as bad as the Air Force still using B-52's that every now and then lose their wings after take off due to old age.
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just toured the Lockheed Martin plant at Marietta, GA and was amazed to see the assembly line for the C130J, putting out 24 airplanes per year (capacity 36), really building airplanes in the US!!!  stat is 1500' landing unimproved strip, so somebody needs to get them to bring refreshments to the soakers.  that would be a picture.
Bob from Tahoe
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Not a UFO, not a plane crash, but . . . .

Back on one of my Spring Break trips to Saline, we were returning to Lower Warm and our camp after a long day exploring (went to Cerro Gordo up the back side, fueled in Owens Valley, to Eureka Valley and return over Lipponcott Lead Mine road--in future sister-in-law's Land Cruser--we went with her after parking near top of South Pass, and dropped off at same, she was returning to AZ.  She said, at the top, she had been on worse roads in Mexico than Lipponcott, then she shut up and paid attention to driving, never said that again).  We were in my old white Ford Maverick (yes, dear, that Maverick has (had) been over both North and South Passes, Titus Canyon, to the gate at White Mountain, and so on), driving slow, at dusk, between the Bat Rock and the springs.  There was a roar, and the car rocked on it's springs.  Holy Shit, WTF?  Looking in the driver side rear view mirror, I saw the red glow of the exhaust(?) afterburner(?), of a F-something, headed west at mirror level.  That pilot had us dialed in, locked and loaded, and we were dead-dead.  Bet he laughed all the way to the Inyo mountains, all 4.9 seconds to get there.  Quite a wake-up, had to have another brew after that.

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I had to pull a Cessna out of the mud with my speed buggy in '94.  It had parked on the soft loamy stuff and later rained a bunch.  The 4x4 trucks were too heavy so we tied plane to my old speed buggy and yanked it out, it was kinda fun! 
jynxx1970

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Sorry it my Jeep JK with rock lights [smile]
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