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DVExile

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The B2 was first publicly displayed in late 1988. It’s first public flight was in the summer of 1989. It was far from secret in 1997. They were a common sight in the air all around the Mojave in the mid 90s. Overflying the Palmdale facility at that time it was common to see multiple on the tarmac, both a mixture of white or black depending on whether they had their final coating applied.

Far from being “denied” by the government there were endless open session debates in congress over the cost starting in the late 1980’s.

EDIT: Forgot to say, nice video!  And thanks for sharing it!
D.A. Wright

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On a murky, cool and cloudy day in January, 1997, I was at the original Stovepipe Well when the B2 batwing and what I think was a B1B chaseplane made a couple passes overhead. At the time the government still denied the existance of the plane.

I captured one of the passes on video. It can be found here:

http://www.exploreforums.com/topic/2951-original-stovepipe-well-death-valley-inyo-county-california/?tab=comments#comment-24015

The link to the video is after my brief history of the site and description of the encounter.

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https://www.nationalparkstraveler.org/2018/09/should-death-valleys-illegal-chicken-strip-airfield-be-made-legal

Hard to believe as active the strip and the area is that there was any controversy about setting down planes on Chicken Strip. Wonder if the Park interest has anything to do with the other use issues.
Hi Desert Warrior

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Whats the latest on the Chicken strip? Is it operational for fly ins?
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Arrived in Palm Spring pools on Sunday and Monday was treated by a low flying F-22 Raptor. Later in the day there were two fly overs by F-18's, in a two plane formation. Both flights were high and over the peace sign. About 20 people were at the springs but due to very high winds on Monday night, everyone left Tuesday morning including me.
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Arrived at the Palm Springs last Sunday, about 2 PM.  It was 105 degrees with hot wind blowing.  No air activity as it was Sunday.  Monday the temp drop to 102 degrees with hot air blowing.  Around 11 AM had a treat of a B-1 Bomber fly over the peace sign, no other aircraft for the rest of the day.  Tuesday the temp was down to the low 90's and a few fly overs by F-18s.  Had a plane do a wig wag when I waved at it.  Early afternoon a Navy Sea Hawk circled the lower springs and started to descend toward the Chicken Strip but hovered for a second over the strip.  Must have spotted the X mark on the strip it flew back over the lower springs and toward China Lake.  Wednesday it was a great day, clear skies, temp in the mid 80's, little to no wind.  A few fly overs, one was a C-130H about 800 feet above the ground.  Very late in the day four F-18s flew over at the same time from Steele Pass.  Two passed over Palm Springs and the other two flew over the peace sign.  I left Thursday, no more ice and a little sun burned, weather was great in the mid 70's at 10 AM.
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The crash was on landing not takeoff.
Hi Desert Warrior

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I guess I mis read the story. I thought the plane over shot the runway on landing and not on take off. If that was the case then weather would have nothing to due with it as it would have been pilot error. Taking off is another story where weather can be the problem with altitude and temp. I was in taxi position at Lone Pine, one day, and watch a V tail Bonanza take off with loaded fuel tanks. He barely got it off the ground and cleared the power lines at the end of the runway. It was a clear day with the temp. in the 90's. I was in a C-172 and had to do climbing 360's to clear the Inyo mountains toward Saline Valley. Just saying.
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Michelle and I were driving north on 395 on Monday, June 13th.  We saw the aircraft on a trailer being towed south through Lone Pine.  We both recognized it immediately from the photos posted on the various Death Valley forums.

I'm glad they got it out.  Now it's time for the very fortunate pilot to go back to school on density altitude!
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I was there last Wednesday and Lee said they brought out a crane and hauled it out in one piece on a flatbed truck.  He also mentioned it was 118 that day which might have something to do with light air.  Only 114 day and low of 100 at 4:00am Wednesday 6-22-2016.
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I live in Nevada City area and Chuck Yeager has been a local for decades.  He was a test pilot for the F-104 development and owns one to this day.  I think he's been medically disqualified, and so of all his planes, that one-seater rarely flies anymore.  He's been known to go up with a buddy in a 2-seater and poach the stick.

I live along final for the county airport (though far enough out that only a few go over me) and it's been a few years since I have seen Chuck's 104.  It's black though, not silver... [smile]  But one of the buddies might have taken a spin.
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What is the latest on the crash airplane? Is it still there? If there was minor tail damage, it look like it could be righted and flown out.
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True, but this one kinda looked like a F-104. But I am sure it was not, as a 104 has a single internal engine and this one had two external engines one on each side and possible a third internal one. A true UFO.
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There are a number 104s in private hands. it'd be a very exciting joy ride for some uber-wealthy jet pilot to buzz the springs!
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As for the T-38, I have flown in one and that wasn't even close to what I saw. The T-38 trainer is a very loud bird and you have to wear ear plugs if not wearing a headset, just like the C-130. I have seen two B-1 Bombers at the springs. One was flying solo from Steel Pass and over the peace sign. A couple of months later I saw another one traveling the same direction and route. It had an escort with two V-22s. If only I had a photo of the strange bird that I saw. It would have been a real prize to the collection.
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