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Flipper

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Can only report second hand information for the north pass. Talked to one visitor who came in north pass yesterday. Was reported to be slushy snow and muddy. Would not recommend it currently for the average traveler. 

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Snow on the night of 2/20. We drove out on 2/21 in 4WD low, 2nd gear (automatic transmission) and we were able to punch through new snow without chains. We were fortunate that we did not run into anyone coming down the hill or there would have been major difficulties. Lots of old and new snow accumulated (12-18" ?) with single tracks to navigate. High clearance is a must currently. (Lots of indications of differentials knocking down the center berm). A lot of squirrely ruts on top of the canyon between Whippoorwill and Marble Canyon too. Offhand I would recommend using chains currently. Justin came out later in the day with a big Ford 4WD and he indicated two vehicles that came down the canyon between his trip and mine chewed up the grade so bad with slipping that he needed to chain up his truck.
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Yeah, the driver knew he was in over his head.  He said he was from Santa Barbara and knew absolutely nothing about driving in the snow! (As if I couldn't figure that out on my own!)  It was an expensive lesson from which I hope he will learn a lot.  

As it turns out, his passenger was a hitchhiker he'd picked up earlier who had heard of the Springs and just happened to accept the offer of a ride in.  I'm pretty sure he'll remember the trip as well!
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S. Bob: Did the Subaru guys ever fully realize all that they did wrong? Maybe they were just blaming the weather and not accepting any responsibility for their predicament.

Sorry we missed the event; new knee not ready for a soak just yet.

Happy soaks.
Geo.
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This will be old news to people who were at the Springs last weekend, but on my way in the North on Friday, Feb. 15th, I found 2 folks in a Subaru Outback which was stuck in about 18" of snow on Whippoorwill Flats.  They had regular street tires with no tire chains, no shovel and no recovery points on their vehicle.  He'd just kept driving into deeper and deeper snow until his car was high centered and his tires were just turning freely.  [confused] Even if I'd had a winch on my Land Cruiser, there was nothing to hook to that wouldn't have damaged his rear bumper.  I offered to use my ham radio to have someone call Miller's Towing but since they had intermittent cell service, they opted to search for a cheaper way of getting out.  In the end, I heard that they did end up paying $1000 for a tow truck to come out and get them.

Meanwhile, the rest of us had no problems getting in or out in our more appropriate vehicles.
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Thanks for the update!
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Tuesday, February 19 , at 10:00 am. Just came out North Pass. 1.5 feet of snow. Full size pickup with 8 ft. camper 4by4 no chains.
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http://forum.salinepreservation.org/post/presidents-2019-10039099?pid=1307720589
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Went in North on the night of the 7th. A bit icy the first 3 miles from pavement and then dry thru Opal Canyon. The snow starts and stops suddenly on North Pass, but was about 6-8" deep on the road for the majority of the time. My ride has 11" of clearance and I dragged the middle maybe once. Would definitely recommend aggressive all terrains or chains for exiting as the climb thru whippoorwill will be icy with compacted snow soon. There are good tracks packed in, but if you meet another vehicle, someone is going to get into the deep stuff to let them by. Going to be interesting to see how much fresh snow hits the pass.

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Just Bill

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I know this is not related to the north pass....But..... just got report ( 2-4-2019...9:00am) from son driving down from Reno...Avalanche blocking 4 lanes of highway at June Lake turnoff area. Lots of snow ....north should be getting more interesting and challenging! Be careful, go prepared!
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Snowing more in Bishop right now; 1-3" expected tomorrow and then clearing and really cold through weekend but no more precipitation expected. So N Pass will be "fun". 
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Out of SV on Sunday afternoon, had to chain up at 7000ā€™ wet snow up to 8ā€, slippery, heavy. Snowline at around 6300ā€™ at bottom of Whipplepool Cyn. Moved couple of big rocks out of the way at the bottom of the Cyn. Not advisable for two wheel drives.
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Exited north pass on Tuesday 1-29 ..........messy , muddy ,some ice , lots of fun in 4x4.....need to have.........deep ruts .......low clearance or 2 wheel drive also all wheel drive would have real tough time....maybe impossible !
Iā€™m sure things have changed with new storm fronts. Yea Winter keeping folks out!!! See ya Presidents!
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We had a great time at the springs!

1/18: The N pass had 8 to 10 in of snow in normal spots. F250 with poptop and Jeep TJ both made it without chains going slow downhill. Encountered a 2 wheel drive Crysler van driver who spent a cold night at the beginning of the uphill and could not make it up...gave him gas and water to make it out the S pass.

1/24: Mostly nice weather during the week except one windy night and next day. Coming out N pass...no new snow...had to chain up all 4 on F250 to get out...Jeep had now problem without chains. We saw 2 vehicles coming down and no one going up.

The Eclipse was awesome!

We heard the S pass was open with very little snow but boulders on the road at top and rough the rest of the way. Two wheel drives van/cars with car tires and no chains are very risky and should think twice about getting stuck.
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From CalTrans District 9

SR168E (Westguard-Gilbert Pass) IS CLOSED FROM BIG PINE TO JCT. 266, Due to Heavy Snow. Motorists are advised to use an Alternate Route.
as of 6:11 PM 1/14/19
http://quickmap.dot.ca.gov

Unknown if you can make it to the turn off from 395 on 168 or continue past that on Death Valley - Waucoba Road
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