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lighthawk

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Did this group have a valid use permit?  It's my understand that commercial use requires a permit from DVNP.
https://www.nps.gov/deva/learn/management/commercial-use-authorizations.htm
paul belanger

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EVERYBODY should clean debris and such.  Making a little money for guiding tours to Saline has never been, and is not now, an issue.  If it were to be done in high volume, that would be an entirely different matter.

Any time a known group leaves a mess, document and confront.  I believe a group like this should respond in a positive manner.  And anyway, it was 6 years ago.  Has it occurred again since?
Sam D.

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There were at least 18 in one spot (group 1) and I believe there was another group 2 in a nearby location with around 8 vehicles.
genocache

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I looked on the NPS website and couldn't find the info so I emailed them and found that 12 is the max for vehicles and 20 for motorcycles. The holder of the CUA is responsible for the group. https://www.nps.gov/deva/getinvolved/upload/Guided-Motor-Vehicle-Tour-web.pdf
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Where guided groups are allowed to overnight and what is expected of them would be covered and documented in the required special use permit to operate inside the National Park. DVNP headquarters can provide a copy of the permit as it is public information.
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http://www.4x4training.com/contacts.html

Heres their contact info.

Their site says they have some kind of license to teach offroading. Not sure if its goverment or otherwise...? We should all be calling the inyo country ranger station to complain. Its our duty to protect our national park.

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tronaborn

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Documenting the damage with pictures, notes, dates, etc. would go a long way to support any information given to the Superintendent.
Sam D.

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The reason I asked ( and tbone, I only appreciate good *asm) is that on Sunday a huge group of off-roaders guided by
Badlands Off-Road Adventures Inc. http://www.4x4training.com/ camped at the springs' baseball field. These folks seemed to be nicer than the usual offroad jeep club people but yet they consumed the donated resources, dirtied immaculate restrooms, fowled up the pools and left some crap behind for others to pick up.
These groups almost never participate in maintenance and cleanup, yet at a cost of $425 per vehicle... These guys are just leeches. 
Can we write to the superintendent to revoke their license if any?


tbone ribeye

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No.  I don't think it's appropriate for companies to take advantage of the hard-working teachers and students of Saline Valley High School.  The added expense of staffing and maintaining this remote campus is already a financial burden to Inyo Co.
Sam D.

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Hi! I am curious what people think of people/companies that come to SVHS and make money?
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