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Thunder58

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Posted  #76 
Well the ranger told me that is the plan. And I personally removed hundreds of small palm trees along with 2 dozen others. We can only hope you are right
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Hmmmmm, well I’m fairly confident the United States government is not going to allow one person to stand in their way of accomplishing a goal they may have. Especially when that person has no legal standing to reside there. If the property he currently occupies was privately held and grandfathered in then yes. Also the palm trees do not require a rangers care. I can assure you the rangers are not going out and fertilizing the palm trees. They get more than enough water from the runoff from the pools. As long as nobody takes a chainsaw to the trunks they will continue to provide me the cool shade I like.
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The palm trees are considered an invasive species and they will allow them to die. There will not be the same "activities" allowed that happen now and there will be changes. I was on a clean up crew at Scotty"s Castle. We were pulling all of the little palm trees coming up and the big ones will be allowed to die as they are a non native species.  The ranger we worked with was very honest with the fact that the only reason that the springs is a hands off area is because it is Lee's "home" So yes there will be changes and no it won't be the same as we know it today.
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The park service isn’t going to turn the springs into anything other than it is now if Lee leaves. Having campground hosts on a rotational basis will do the job just fine. I know there are people willing to do it. I wouldn’t get hung up on the thought that we have to have him there to have the springs. Camp hosts like Georg and Ria are exactly what the the springs (upper and lower) need!
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Wow, I think SalineOldTimer needs to find a new hangout. I for one and grateful that Lee has basically given up life as the general public knows it to keep this place going and basically with his very presence keep the DVPS at bay. I was told by a park employee that the only reason the park hasn't jumped in and taken over this oasis is because that is his home. When he dies so does the freedom SVWS has. They will come in and convert it to a typical park services area. That means big changes and probably many more restrictions. People need to realize this and enjoy this last bastion of the past. Seriously!  
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I sent you a PM
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I guess SPA moderators took this crap down? It has little to do with Camp Needs. Are you sure you want to bring it back?
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2/14/2018


Lizard Lee always needs AA and AAA batteries. He welcomes donations as well.

There are only 4 remaining Koi fish that survived in the koi pond. Whoever brought the fish, please bring more.

DO NOT FORGET TO BRING LARGE HEAVY DUTY PLASTIC BAGS TO HAUL OUT YOUR AND COMMUNITY FIREPIT ASHES PLEASE

MAY I SUGGEST YOU DATE WITH A MARKER AT HOME EVERYTHING YOU BRING TO GET ROTATION GOING PLEASE

Lower Springs:

NO BLEACH FOR NOW  - got enough

Spray bottles to mist bleach  - reduces bleach consumption tenfold - leave them by the Crystal pool.
These will work:
http://www.homedepot.com/p/ZEP-32-oz-Professional-Sprayer-HDPRO36/100007602
http://www.homedepot.com/p/SprayMaster-32-oz-Spray-Bottle-FG32HD1-18/202622477

Clorox Bleach Foamers - or other bleach based cleaners  - Single pooper has enough. The double pooper could use 2 more in each stall.

Solid Air Fresheners like this:
https://www.amazon.com/Glade-Solid-Freshener-Honeysuckle-Nectar/dp/B00E9OYDGU


Biodegradable dishwashing soap

Premium Toilet Paper.

Kitchen scrubbing sponges

Paper Towels + gloves + elbow grease are needed for cleaning the restrooms but PLEASE DO NOT DISPOSE USED PAPER TOWELS  into the restroom tanks. Collect into your trash bag and take them home. Do not leave unused paper towels in the restrooms - hide them in the storage, donate to camp host or take back home. People use paper towels to wipe hands and throw them into the tanks. Paper towels do not break easily and often clog pump truck hoses.


Palms Springs:

Broom or two:
1) Squeegee-broom type is most useful for sweeping the sand while draining the tubs; and
2) Regular kitchen type broom for sweeping the shower deck and outhouse.

TP is the only supplies that would be needed in the near future at Palm Spring so only bring septic approved and no Charmin type TP.

Biodegradable dishwashing soap

Kitchen scrubbing sponges

Solid Air Fresheners like this:
https://www.amazon.com/Glade-Solid-Freshener-Honeysuckle-Nectar/dp/B00E9OYDGU
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I miss them!!! Such good people. Couldn’t ask for better hosts.
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BL.

I will respond on this thread rather than a P.M. as others may want to visit them also.

They are spending the entire winter, probably until mid-April at De Anza Springs Resort which is off of I-8 near Jacumba,CA.
1951 Carrizo Rd.
Jacumba, CA 91934

I don't know which camp site they are in.

Geo.
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♡♡♡ That is wonderful! Where in San Diego? I would love to stop by to give them a thanks! They were always so nice!
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Just a little info about Georg and Ria that most of you probably do not know.
They would accept cash donations and would sell aluminum cans and some bottles in town (it was rare that they went to town) all of the money received went into a separate account.
From this account, they only bought supplies for the Palm Springs area and they kept the place well supplied and maintained.
When they made their final departure, they gave just short of $300 to SPA, which will then be used for spring maintenance as originally intended.

A comment about Ria.
On busy weekends, she would get up around 5:00 am each morning to clean the out-house before the crowd arrived.

They are now spending the winter at a camp near San Diego; our loss.

Happy soaks.
Geo.
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How bout George and Ria as a replacement for Lee. Quasi-permanent like LL is now.
They will have the whole place in check in no time. No more burros looking for handouts at sunset. No more burning of donated wood. They would actually have an interest in the springs instead of looking out for themselves.
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While a camp host is necessary to keep a basic eye out to let park officials know what's going on and for emergence safety reasons.
Lee needs to be replaced too many days in the sun. I would be OK with him staying there perminantly as thanks for a time he may have been a good host, but he is hostile twords visitors wich I feel is contrary to what a good National park person should be.I would think the National park would want cheerful energetic encouraging helpful people. I have been helped by Lee in a medical situation but that's about all I can say for that help. But never have ever gotten a simple friendly smile.
Hey park officials look into this!!!!
I would sign a petition to get a new host.
Oh and that don guy who was at the upper springs was totally a piece in my book!!
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Posted  #90 
nothing new here
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