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slash2

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The Hunt for the Death Valley Germans.

This is an interesting read and a good example of how a series of misguided but well intentioned choices can lead to eventual disaster.

http://www.otherhand.org/home-page/search-and-rescue/the-hunt-for-the-death-valley-germans/

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yes def agree.  Even for people who aren't superstitious hitting/killing any animal is a bad omen... hitting 2 animals on a remote desert road in death valley is playing with a bomb with a lit fuse.  Not turning around after the second, is letting the bomb go off in yo face!
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The guy should've turned around when the rabbit attacked his car.

Didn't that happen to Jimmy Carter?
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Man u guys are harsh!  I just read the whole thread for the first time and I just thought to myself... I would never write that story like this on a internet blog that anyone could share later on...  just cuz i know I would get my ass reamed by all of you!![rolleyes][mad][nono][nono].  Everyone here knows that we've all done dumb ass things in our lives.  Some really dumb ass... I give him credit to put his story online
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peneumbra

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Self-deprecating?
Don't they sell special underwear for that?
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I was informed and entertained by the story. It perfectly illustrates the old aviation saw about how an accident is not just one event but rather a chain of events where the breaking of just one link would have changed the outcome. Many years in SAR taught me that human capacity for error is greater than I could imagine. However even in some of the most horrifically dumb disasters I could usually imagine me doing something equally stupid. 

The fact that the story seems really straightforward without blaming anyone but himself was refreshing and educational. Sure, I probably wouldn't have done that particular set of dumb-ass moves--but I could tell other even more outrageously stupid things that I somehow got away with. What I didn't do was reveal my stupidity to the world with the hope that it would be taken as an after-the-fact, humorously, cautionary tale--know why? Because of the self-righteous pile-on that would ensue. 

I like to think I would not have been so foolhardy in the first place, but I definitely would not have been foolhardy enough to write my mea culpa story and face an army of keyboard warriors intent on taking a cautionary tale as something to pontificate about. I was really informed by his story, less so by those who thought it necessary to point out the obvious mistakes the author already admitted.

So thanks to uhrdavid for his honest and self-deprecating story.



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Operation Enduring Freedom - October 2001 to 31 December 2014
Operation Iraqi Freedom - 20 March 2003 - 01 May 2003 the offensive operation ordered by President Bush to invade and liberate the Iraqi Peoples from Saddam Hussein.


Though I wasn't in the Army, I can certainly state that a person does not cross train in such a matter. The role of the chaplains corps assistants is to provide protection services to the Chaplain, since the Chaplain is a non-combatant per Geneva Convention rules. Insofar as this dude claiming to be cross-trained in PSYOPS is a total lie. It's against both the ethical and moral charter of the chaplains to be involved in PSYOPS. That is something that is a directive of the intelligence community and such positions are not lightly bestowed on individuals.

This dude is full of shit. -Source: I was in the Navy during these operations and was decorated for my part in OEF and the Global War on Terror.



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Yep, that's definitely different, to say the least! I'm guessing that he meant that he left the Army after 8?  But he should know the meaning of the word "retired"
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"Enlisted in the U.S. Army on Sept. 14th, 2002 as a Chaplain’s Assistant, cross-trained as a Psychological Operations Specialist.
Veteran of Operation Enduring Freedom (2004-5) & Operation Iraqi Freedom (2008), retired (2010).
Graduated in December of 2011, from the University of MN with a degree in Anthropology."

Retired with 8 years service? Unless it is a medical retirement, a service member needs 20 to retire AFAIK.
Chaplains assistant and then Psych ops? Me thinks this quite strange. But what do I know, I wasn't Army. [rofl]
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all links updated and verified Today.
original story was EPIC!!!

https://davidsworlddotorg.wordpress.com/2013/06/27/stranded-in-death-valley-part-i-of-iii/


https://davidsworlddotorg.wordpress.com/2013/06/27/stranded-in-death-valley-part-ii-of-iii/


https://davidsworlddotorg.wordpress.com/2013/06/27/stranded-in-death-valley-part-iii-of-iii/


https://davidsworlddotorg.wordpress.com/2013/06/28/stranded-in-death-valley-epilogue/

The fact that he was an army guy is disappointing to me( opinion)
some lessons may not have been learned properly. (opinion again)


Here we see people who regularly come to death-valley prepared and often help people less prepared than themselves. Discussing the trip down Lippincott mine road in a rented Black Camry.

short bio http://davidsworlddotorg.wordpress.com/about/

Enlisted in the U.S. Army on Sept. 14th, 2002 as a Chaplain’s Assistant, cross-trained as a Psychological Operations Specialist.
Veteran of Operation Enduring Freedom (2004-5) & Operation Iraqi Freedom (2008), retired (2010).
Graduated in December of 2011, from the University of MN with a degree in Anthropology.





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Works for me.
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Link is now expired...

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That was a fun read. Cool video too.
slash2

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I cam across this the other day.

http://jalopnik.com/5910170/how-to-murder-your-mail-order-bride-in-death-valley
GreysCreek

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Saline is no respector of persons-especially when they don't pay attention to warning signs and take plenty of water during the hot months before considering a trip through country they know nothing about. Back in the 50's and 60's we heard of some horrific stories of folks who got into trouble and or lost their lives there. One man, his son and grandson perished within a few feet of water while they were trying to cut across the valley for help. They should have stayed on the Co. Rd. , but they made a fatal mistake. It was a terrible story and rather than criticize, I have agonized to think of what this family went through at the end and thinking how close they were to what I think was my Dad's spring. I'm sure someone stole the epitaph carved on a huge redwood slab about their demise, but thankfully I have photos of it.
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